Chemical Processing Notebook: Covestro's Long Road to Circularity
German materials giant Covestro is in transition. On Oct. 1, the company said it accepted a €14.7 billion ($16.7 billion) takeover offer from Abu Dhabi National Oil Co., or Adnoc. On that same day, Tim Thiel, Covestro’s global circular economy manager, participated in a panel discussion called “Plastics Billion Dollar Decarbonization Opportunity” during the Reuters Industrial Decarbonization North America 2024 in Pittsburgh.
Thiel outlined a sobering reality: While chemical recycling and bio-based materials offer promising pathways to sustainability, fundamental hurdles around economics and infrastructure remain.
In a follow-up conversation, Thiel discusses how one of the world's largest polymer producers is navigating the complex transition toward circularity – from its €100 million R&D investment to strategic partnerships that could reshape how the industry approaches plastic waste. The following is an edited version of that conversation.
3 Key Takeaways:
- Economics and Infrastructure Barriers: The two biggest challenges to chemical industry circularity are cost premiums for sustainable solutions and a lack of proper infrastructure/supply chains. Even if Covestro wanted to switch to fully bio-based materials tomorrow, the supply and logistics systems simply aren't in place to support it.
- Mass Balance as Bridge Strategy: While some criticize mass balance approaches as deceptive, Covestro sees them as a crucial multi-year transition strategy. Mass balance allows companies to begin the shift toward sustainable materials without requiring new equipment or infrastructure, though significant customer education is needed about what it means.
- Innovation Through Multiple Pathways: Covestro is pursuing several parallel tracks toward circularity, including:
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- A €100 million global R&D investment (with €40 million for Pittsburgh labs)
- Partnerships with companies like BioBTX and Encina for recycled plastics
- A University of Pittsburgh program focused on circular design principles
- Advanced recycling initiatives for mattress foam and insulation materials. However, most of these technologies are still 3-5 years from commercialization.
Jonathan Katz: What are some of the key challenges related to circularity in the chemical industry?
Tim Thiel: Number one is going to be economics. Any of these new solutions will more than likely come at a premium price over traditional solutions that are out there. So bio-based, recycled content will always be higher priced until economies of scale get there.
That gets me to the second barrier, which is the infrastructure and supply chain isn’t there yet. I told someone today that if we wanted to go fully biobased tomorrow in one of our sectors, we couldn't do it. And not only the supply, the actual supply chain and logistics. When you think of recycled content or reusing waste or reusing plastics, especially in the U.S., that supply chain is not really set up, and if it is set up, it's not set up well. So how do you economically get post-use plastics back to someone like Covestro, so we can use those as an input rather than using our traditional fossil-based inputs? And how do you do it economically, efficiently, and how do you do that across the globe?
Jonathan Katz: If you wanted to go completely biobased, what needs to change to make that happen from a supply chain or infrastructure perspective?
Tim Thiel: I think it's a few different things. For example, some people are going to look at things like agriculture biomass as a waste product to replace fossil based. What’s the easiest way to get all that corn or whatever waste that’s laying there in the field? I don't know. You have to figure out a way to economically start collecting such waste and get them to someone that can process it like us. Sorting is going to be another thing.
Dealing with things like contaminants and new waste streams is going to be another thing. In the coming years all of that is going to be set up, the kinks are going to be worked out, and we'll hit some sort of inflection point rate where there's going to be supply and demand that's going to drive the pricing somewhat down.
That’s just one example. But even if you recycle plastics, how do you get out the plastics relevant to the widget you want to make? When you go to a recycling center, it's 100% comingled like a soup. The technologies are probably coming, and I think they'll be there. But are they there today? No. So, trying to get these pure streams at this point just isn't mature enough and economical enough to really fulfill the needs of someone like us if we wanted to get full-recycled or full bio content.
Jonathan Katz: What are the logistical hurdles you have faced just collecting and sorting plastics and addressing issues like contamination?
Tim Thiel: Mass balance to me and to Covestro is, I think, a transitional period and a bridging strategy and not just short term. We’re talking years and years, and the industry's slowly starting to adopt it. People are starting to understand it. I think that's going to be the means to build the true segregated supply chain. So, one, it is a drop-in solution. There are no technical hurdles. You really don't have to worry about changing your quality, contaminants and things like that because as a certification process, it's not truly segregated.
Two, I think as mass balance sales start to happen in the market and not just from Covestro and not just our materials, just plastics and polymers in general, the whole industry is going to start to look at that and say while they are adopting this sustainable thinking and circularity thinking and bio-based and recycled content, maybe I should start working on more supply for these industries. I think it becomes a proof point or a case study, saying look at these industries utilizing mass balance; there is a demand for more supply of these type of materials. And then, hopefully, at some point suppliers will start to supply more segregated bio-based, more recycled materials, and then you’ll start to transition from mass balance to segregated recycled and bio-based content.
Jonathan Katz: I’ve heard some folks say the environmental benefits of mass balance are deceptive. What are your thoughts?
Tim Thiel: I think there's education that must be done, and I do spend a good bit of my time doing that. I trained internal people on what's mass balance and how does this work and what is it because it's just different than what we're used to as a chemical company. And then, I spent a lot of time on customer calls educating them on what mass balance is — even what we're talking about now — how it's a bridging strategy to get there, and you don't need new piping, you don't need new tanks. It's a technical drop-in at this point. And we do clearly talk about that it is a certified process and not segregated true bio-content. It's a means to an end.
Jonathan Katz: I wanted to turn to a recent announcement Covestro made about a 100-million-euros-investment in global R&D infrastructure, and a lot of that's around circularity. How will this help Covestro move forward in its circularity efforts?
Tim Thiel: I'll first speak locally and then maybe in a broader sense. In Pittsburgh we're committed to this region. We've invested €40 million of that €100 million globally in our labs here. A lot of the equipment we have in Pittsburgh is a mini or pilot scale of what our customers do. So we can mimic their production, we can mimic their problems, we can mimic new products. We’re upgrading equipment and upgrading the capabilities of our labs. Our goal here is innovation. It's always at the heart of Covestro. This new equipment, new lab, is going to help us design and test circular and sustainable materials, recycled content, things like that. The second part of that money globally is going into digital.
We’re looking at how we can revolutionize our production processes using digital tools or data analysis to increase efficiency and find synergies at our sites to lower our carbon footprint. We will also use digital tools, including AI, which can help us research new molecules.
Jonathan Katz: You have a circularity program at the University of Pittsburgh. How will this collaboration with the university help you get ready for the changing market that you're in?
Tim Thiel: It’s not there just to help us. It’s there to help industry. A large part of circularity that I would say is forgotten about is the actual design side. So what we've talked about so far is the input materials. We've talked about processes that make materials, and then we've talked a little bit about end-of-life upfront design on products. The idea here is making a product that are more easily taken apart at the end or that's closer to a monolithic design that makes it easier to recycle. That’s kind of the genesis of that program. We want these students coming out with a PhD certificate in circular design.
We want them out in the industry and the market so new products, new systems are created all around this realm of circularity. The whole program really is about, how can I design for reuse?
For example, if I'm designing the next mattress based on raw materials from Covestro, how do I make that mattress more apt to be recycled at its end of life in 10 years? Can I make it easier to come apart and use less materials or chemistries? I mentioned monolithic design. The thing that really hurts recycling is when you have various types of chemistries in the same product. If you think of a mattress, you have polyurethane foam for comfort; then you might have polyester textiles; then you might have cottons. All those are recycled differently, and so you have to be very cognizant of how to separate, how to sort it, and then how to recycle each piece differently. If we start moving the designs of materials or systems or products that are one single polymer, let's say, or chemistry, it's going to be much easier to recycle.
Jonathan Katz: Can you provide some examples of any changes you've had to make at the plant level to be able to handle these new formulations or bio-based mass balance materials?
Tim Thiel: The nice thing about mass balance: none. That's the good part of it. You don't really have to change your actual processing or how you produce. The thing you have to do is get your site certified. We chose a certification called ISCC Plus. They basically review the processes of our site, review how we receive materials, and they audit the site and then issue guidance.
When it comes to circularity or Scope emissions, we're looking at our energy sources. We have energy procurement people who are looking at renewable energy. We announced a year or so ago a virtual power purchase agreement with a company called Orsted. It's a 15-year agreement to lower our Scope 2 emissions to about 70,000 tons of carbon or CO2 avoided per year with that agreement. Another change we made at the site was in regard to a catalyst. We had a project to look at our nitric acid production. Nitric acid is a precursor for a lot of our processes. We were using a catalyst in that process that had a high global warming potential (GWP) and a high product carbon footprint. In that project, we were able to find some solutions to replace that high GWP product. We were able to lower the emissions in that area by 98%. So that's a direct drop of our Scope 1 emissions at the site from that project change.
If and when we get to segregated bio-based materials, that's where we would have to look at things like new piping and new tanks.
Jonathan Katz: In light of the recent lawsuit that the state of California filed against Exxon Mobil, how, as a company, do you ensure there's transparency in what you're doing and its true impact on the environment?
Tim Thiel: For transparency’s sake, that's why on the mass balance side you get certified, right? That's the whole transparency. It's not us saying, “Hey, look at us.” We have these materials. It's a neutral third party that we paid to audit us and provide us a certification. We are working within their framework.
Also, green claims fall under what's called the Federal Trade Commission’s (FTC) Green guidelines. So anytime we're going to do a new product launch or when we launched our mass balance portfolio, one, we're going to someone from our communications department and the talk to experts on how we should brand this and communicate this. We have specific legal groups that are well versed on FTC Green guidelines on how you can or can't talk about your product or process. And so, we go with that guidance on how we're going to be marketing this.
Jonathan Katz: Is there anything else you would like to add?
Tim Thiel: Yes, a couple of things that we're working on: We are embracing and looking into advanced recycling. In Europe, we're specifically looking at advanced recycling of mattress foam. We are also looking at advanced recycling of an insulation type of foam – whether it’s for a building or an appliance like a refrigerator. Advanced recycling would involve taking these post-consumer materials back down to their chemical constituents or monomers, and then we can reuse those monomers to make a new product, and our customers can reuse our product to make a new finished good – all without using traditional fossil-based raw materials. The other thing we're looking at in the future is alternative materials.
We signed two different agreements for recycled plastics that go into raw materials. One is called BioBTX in Europe, and then another is from Encina. We signed letters of intent to be an offtake of their process, which takes municipal solid waste in and mixed plastics and turns the mixed plastics and waste into viable raw materials for us, namely benzene and toluene. Again, we would use these raw materials in place of fossil-based raw materials for our processes at our plants. On the bio side, we have a process to make bio aniline at lab scale, and we're in the process of designing and going forward with a more pilot and industrial-scale bio aniline in the future years. Aniline is a basic chemical raw material for a lot of our products.
Another one is we're working with a company called Geno, formerly Genomatica. We developed with them a plant-based variant of a chemical called HMDA, a precursor raw material in paints and adhesives. These are all examples of what I would call long-term collaborations with value-chain partners that are going to lead to more sustainable raw materials for Covestro, lower carbon footprint materials, lower emitting materials for our customers.
Jonathan Katz: Of all the technologies you just mentioned, are there any that are closer to commercialization than others?
Tim Thiel: I would say they're all in the three- to five-year-plus timeframe. So no, I couldn't really pick a winner.
About the Author
Jonathan Katz
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Jonathan Katz, executive editor, brings nearly two decades of experience as a B2B journalist to Chemical Processing magazine. He has expertise on a wide range of industrial topics. Jon previously served as the managing editor for IndustryWeek magazine and, most recently, as a freelance writer specializing in content marketing for the manufacturing sector.
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